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Thursday, August 8, 2013

Can an IVF Cycle Ever go Smoothly?!



Banking cycle number 2 is coming up quickly. Maybe. I had planned on cycling with the start of my next cycle. But of course, the timing may not work out very well. I have family visiting from out of state that I see once a year. They are only here for a week and plan on staying with us. Depending on my current cycle, I could end up needing to leave in the middle of their visit. If I put off cycling until the next cycle, then I would end up missing the wedding of very dear friends of ours. We had hoped to finish up with our three banking cycles before the holidays. I had hoped to start transferring in January.

Insurance may also impact my next cycle. I know how blessed we are to have some coverage, but getting the coverage in place is turning into a rather big hassle. My in-network hospital in town does not provide IVF and the insurance will pay at the in-network level for out of network IVF, but you need a physician referral. I have the referral already from when I met with a local doctor for monitoring. But when the local office tried to submit the referral it wouldn’t go through because my insurance company was showing I still had a policy in effect from another company (a policy that ended two years ago!!). I have just had a lot of back and forth phone calls and explaining things to many different people. Stuff like this just really annoys me for some reason. I know in the grand scheme of things when insurance does pay out, every second of frustration will be worth it. Anyway, the referral still needs to go through and the insurance company needs to approve it before I can start on my next cycle.

I’m just keeping my fingers and legs crossed that my current cycle goes longer than the more recent 25 days. A 28 day cycle would be awesome this month. Adding to the pressure is my deal seeking husband that can currently find cheap airfare from here for the approximate timeframe we are looking at. The problem with booking now is I do a natural start and my cycles have ranged from 23 days to 29 days in the last year. Last cycle we booked the flight on CD 3 and I left on CD 8. This time I hope to do more local monitoring and would spend less time out in California, perhaps leaving CD 10.

I know everything will work out in the end. It is much less scary this time around since I’ve done this all before. And now that I know how much easier mini-IVF is on my body, I’m not as anxious to cycle. I really just want to get the banking cycles done with so we can start transferring.

I have also been meaning to mention for anyone curious about mini-IVF. One of the sources where I learned more about it and also found the clinic I use was a forum for infertiles with high FSH.  http://www.network54.com/Forum/53068/ 
The forum says high FSH over 40, but there are plenty of younger women posting on there. I myself am an information junkie and did tons of searching before we considered trying IVF again. I really feel that you need to be your own advocate and not just always believe the first doctor you speak with. I also feel that because our emotions are all over the place I think it’s easier to sometimes just go with a doctor because you like them, instead of being able to step back and look at the clinic success rates as a whole. Each person needs to figure out what will work best for them and the only way is by doing lots and lots of research. I post on the above mentioned forum under the name Amanda. I have probably discussed more details there about my mini-ivf experience than I’ve put on my blog so far. I miss more regular blogging. Hopefully I will get myself back into it. 


Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Let Round 2 Begin



After an almost three month break, I will be embarking on round 2 of banking embryos soon. I’m cycle day 11 and with the start of my next cycle we will be starting again.

We ended up with a better result than I ever dared hoped for last time.

I wish I was more excited this time. But it’s still hard. I am so cautious about getting my hopes up. I’ve been hurt so many times in the process. I guard my heart very closely these days.

I’m sure the stress of all the big transitions in our life the past three months aren’t helping matters. My husband finished his training and started a new job. We moved into a new house two states away from our last place. I’m hanging out unemployed for the time being, but that’s purely by choice while we wrap up these final two banking cycles. Besides, I have enough to keep me busy with moving into a new home.

I had really hoped my husband could join me on this cycle. Unfortunately it looks like he will be working the week I will likely be out there. I guess I should look on the positive side that it will save on airfare to not have him come.

A few positives to come out of the transition are that surprisingly we have some infertility coverage through our insurance. We are incredibly blessed and thankful as we know just how rare that is! Locally there is not an IVF clinic, but the women’s center at our new hospital does cycle monitoring appointments. And now that we have insurance coverage I can do more monitoring locally and that will translate to less time in California! Double win! Not that I mind hanging out at the beach with beautiful weather, but it just isn’t as much fun when you’re all alone.

Here’s to round two!







Saturday, June 8, 2013

IVF #3 Results



I have too much going on lately to write a decent post, but wanted to record the results of my third IVF so I can remember later on.

·         CD 2 Ultrasound/Bloodwork
o   18 AFC !!!! This was amazing, it’s 50% more than I had a year and a half ago. I contribute the rise to acupuncture. It’s the only thing different I’ve done.
o   FSH 15.7 (ouch) E2 41
·         CD 3-10
o   Clomid 50mg
o   Gonal F 150iu CD 6, 8, 10
·         CD 8 Fly out to California
·         CD 9 Ultrasound/Bloodwork
o   FSH 11.2
o   E2 840
o   LH 10.6
o   Right Ovary: 15, 13, 8, 6
o   Left Ovary: 17.5, 14, 13, 13, 11, 11
o   You read that right, 10 follicles growing!! (last IVF I only had 6 grow on very high stims)
·         CD 11 Ultrasound/Bloodwork
o   E2 1700
o   LH 13
o   P4 1.5
o   Right Ovary 17, 16, 14, 9, 8
o   Left Ovary 26, 20, 19, 16, 16, 14
o   That’s a grand total of 11 follicles. 9 decent sized, 2 smaller ones
o   Trigger shot of Lupron late that night and several timed doses of ibuprofen over the next two days.
·         CD 13 Egg Retrieval
o   7 Eggs retrieved!!
o   No anesthesia used at this clinic. Painful, but tolerable.
o   It was pretty awesome to see the eggs harvested and to see the embryologist line them up in the petri dish.
·         CD 14 Fly Home
o   All 7 eggs were mature and fertilized!
·         CD 15
o   Start provera for 10 days to bring on a period
·         CD 18 (5 days past retrieval)
o   4 embryos had stopped growing
o   3 remaining had not yet reached blastocyst stage
o   Devastated
·         CD 19 (6 days past retrieval)
o   4 frozen blasts (one that had stopped growing decided to grow after all)
§  Two: 4CC (expanded blast, poor quality)
§  One: 4BC (expanded blast, ok/poor quality)
§  One: 4BB (expanded blast, ok quality)
·         Ended up being a 25 day cycle.

·         Waiting 2 months to cycle again due to many different things going on in our life.
This mini IVF cycle was soooo much better than doing a full blown high stim cycle. And as you can see, it yielded significantly better results.  And the best part was, even with the travel, it was so much easier on me physically and emotionally. I will NEVER do a high stim cycle ever again. It’s just not worth it when there are better options out there.


Thursday, April 25, 2013

Here We Go. Again.



I’m about to embark on the one thing I said I wasn’t ever going to do again.

In less than two weeks I will be starting IVF.

Again. 

It has been a long process to get to this point. 

Last summer I decided enough was enough and I wasn’t going to put myself through anything more. I was focused on getting myself healthy and that’s exactly what I did. I changed jobs, I eat healthy (most of the time), I stay active, and I started going to acupuncture(best. thing. ever.) once a week. Acupuncture deserves its own post, so I’ll save my accolades for another day.

So. How/when/why did I have a change of heart?

I’m not really sure. A big part of it is my husband has a new job and with that comes enough of a salary increase to actually afford IVF. Another part is that I still carry so much guilt that he may never get the chance to be a father. 

I know endometriosis is not my fault. I know infertility is not my fault. 

But. 

But there is and will always be an undercurrent of guilt. Because it’s MY body that is defective.

I will be traveling out of state this time for IVF. I will be traveling alone as my husband is not able to miss work. I will do day two monitoring locally, and then fly out for the rest of my cycle. I found a clinic that focuses on mini and natural IVF. It will be nothing like my previous attempts. Gone are the disgustingly high doses of injectable medications, frequent monitoring, sedation, and high risk of cancellation if not enough follicles are produced. Instead I will be taking mostly low doses of oral meds with the only injection being a trigger shot, two maybe three monitoring appointments, no sedation for retrieval, and virtually no risk of cancellation because they focus on going after only a few eggs. I will do two mini cycles and bank any embryos we can get. Then I will go for a third, natural cycle, where they will just monitor and have one shot for the trigger. It sounds like a walk in the park compared to what I went through before. The hard part will be flying out there alone. I have been collecting things to keep myself busy and will try to keep things in perspective while there.

We have agreed if these three rounds don’t work, we’re done. 

After this we can move forward knowing we gave it our best shot. 



Wednesday, July 18, 2012

No Wheat, No Dairy, Yea Right


In our quest to try naturally for a while, I have decided to attempt to follow eastern medicine and the recommended dietary changes. The one resounding diet change I keep finding in regards to my endometriosis and eastern perspective is to eliminate wheat and dairy. Now let’s keep in mind I was raised in the upper Midwest with a father who grew up on a farm. Wheat, dairy, and red meat made up 99% of my diet. It’s what I know, it’s what I love. Really really love. Now I find myself picking up items at the grocery store I can’t even pronounce. Good luck finding items without refined sugar or wheat. I’m currently living in a smaller city and the grocery stores here are pretty pathetic. I perused the one shelf of gluten free items earlier tonight and the first three loaves of bread I picked up all had mold growing on them…ew. They do have a somewhat decent selection of organic bulk items of various rice, quinoa, and seeds. I picked up a few things and will try them over the next few weeks.

One change I’ve made is no longer drinking milk and attempting to make sure most of my beverages are room temperature or warm. Basically I drink a lot of water. I recently gave up OJ and lemonade… too much sugar. I even started drinking the recommended red raspberry leaf tea. Don’t make the same mistake I did…I fully anticipated a delightful fruity tea. It’s actually a pungent black tea and I wasn’t even able to finish the first cup I brewed. I make myself drink a cup each day and it’s getting a tiny bit better. I think tea is like beer, it’s an acquired taste, or at least that’s what I’m hoping.

These changes are going to be hard. I looked through a lot of my favorite recipes and so many of them I can’t eat anymore. It doesn’t help that my husband is extremely reluctant to get on board with the whole diet change. He was also raised in the upper Midwest. Casserole with noodles, ground beef, and cheese anyone? I decided tonight when I was at the store I am going to love all the crap I picked up. I may not like it the first or even by the eighth time, but I will learn to like it. At the very least, even if I don’t get pregnant, I will be eating a lot healthier. It’s actually disgusting just how much junk is in food these days. And don’t even get me started on all the chemicals.

Some of the other recommended dietary changes I made a long time ago. We no longer have chips or pretzels or any other overly processed junk foods in our home.  I gave up caffeine over three years ago and haven’t missed it (once the initial three months of withdrawals were over). (And yes, I was one of those, ‘I could never give up caffeine, I NEED it’. Trust me, you don’t) Over a year ago, I gave up soda entirely. Once in great while, about every 6 months, I will have a small soda and it always reminds me why I don’t drink it. The caffeine gives me a headache and the massive amount of sugar makes it so sweet it doesn’t even taste good to me anymore. And all this coming from a girl who once lived on 4-5 Dr. Peppers a day.

One thing that will be hard to give up is alcohol. Not that I’m a huge drinker, but we live in a community that is big on drinking. And I love a good glass of wine or a nice cold beer once or twice a week. And of course when you’re not drinking, people start talking. In the past during treatments when I was out and not drinking it was easy enough to use the excuse of not being able to drink alcohol because I was taking pain meds for my endometriosis. But still, I hate the funny looks and questions.

I know I want to make these changes, it just feels a bit overwhelming. And I don’t have any clue where to even start. I’m not a good cook by any means. My husband and I have been on opposite schedules for so long we only get around to cooking once or twice a week. But that is going to have to change. I’ve been trying to find recipes and will start experimenting. My goal is to find foods that are healthy for us, and still taste delicious. At the very least, this new adventure in food should be a good distraction for me.


Sunday, July 8, 2012

What Happens Next

There are so many decisions to make regarding infertility: when to seek to treatment, where to seek treatment, what kinds of treatment to try, and ultimately, when to stop treatments. I feel over many months now I’ve been moving closer to the choice of stopping treatments. Granted, we’ve been stuck not being able to do anything for over a year now, but the thought of going through it all again, is very unappealing to me.

My current thought is I’m done with infertility treatments for good. My decision is based upon many factors. Financially we wouldn’t be able to even think about doing treatments until my husband finishes his training next year and finally starts his career.  At one point I scoured the internet for grants and discounts, only to find for most of them I’m almost immediately disqualified due to my FSH. Yep, having infertility is not enough; you even get discriminated in the infertility community. I find it ironic, a big reason for us needing IVF is the same reason we won’t get help for it… There’s so much about infertility I will never understand.

Another driving factor in my decision is my health. After my second surgery for endometriosis in February, I was horrified looking at the pictures afterwards and seeing just how much damage was done to my body in a little over three years. And I’m convinced our seven rounds of fertility drugs played a huge role in the damage. In less than 1 ½ years my left tube was left completely blocked by endometriosis when prior to starting treatments both tubes were wide open. Again, I note the irony in how the same treatments meant to help us get pregnant are the same ones that have made me even more infertile.

My age is also bothering me. Big time. I’m not worried about being older; I embrace the person I’ve become. I just always thought I would be done having children before I hit my 30’s, not still sitting here with empty arms. Now I know 31 is not old by any means, but let’s just say I changed my mind and wanted to try treatments again, and they were successful. I would be 33 at the earliest and If I had the three kids I always wanted (greedy at this point, I know) I would be 37+ when we finished. Again, that’s not old, but it’s just beyond the point I wanted to be starting a family.

Our lives have been put on hold for many years now because of my husband’s career. I’ve had to put my career on hold and we’ve put many other things on hold as well. It’s hard seeing so many of our friends settled down and buying houses (and some are done having children already…) when we are still a ways from all of that. Once my husband is done next year, we plan on moving again to a place where I can finally start my career. Hopefully. I have an education degree and thanks to infertility, I’ve been having serious doubts about continuing on that path. But I’m ready to move on with our lives. Settle down. Buy a house. Pursue my career. And travel. We love traveling.

So I’m done. I’m done waiting and wondering and torturing my body. I’ve already decided I won’t ever have another maintenance surgery for endometriosis. Next time my pain starts impacting my daily life I will have one last surgery to remove the endo along with my ovaries so I hopefully won’t ever have to deal with it again. IVF for us has maybe a 20% chance of working. Those odds are not worth destroying my body more than we already have.

Our plan for now is to let nature take its course. Either we’ll have a miracle pregnancy (less than 2% chance), or my endo will eventually get bad enough to require the final surgery. We’re leaving that open for now. I’m done with hormones suppressing my endo since I just felt awful all the time. Do I have any hopes a natural conception will occur? Of course not. And yes, that annoying little voice in the background keeps saying, what if? What if, indeed.